Lazerpig is wrong about the Defiant

I really didn’t think I’d do another blog post about Star Trek Spaceships possibly ever, but Miltuber (and NCD darling) Lazerpig did the angry review thing on the Defiant.

While Defiant isn’t my favorite Trek ship, DS9 is probably my favorite Trek show so I felt the need to rise to the occasion. Or at least gather my thoughts so I don’t need to send the same rant to multiple different chats.

Why build a defiant

Lazerpig has chosen to critique the Defiant as it was designed, not the production variant that includes a cloaking device. So I don’t think we should be evaluating its actual uses in the same way we might evaluate a ship that went into full production and deployment.

He spends a lot of time talking about why Fed ships tend to be cruisers but doesn’t really engage with why you’d maybe want to build something like the Defiant. I thought it was obvious from the dialogue; it’s meant to be a glass cannon that they could field in greater numbers than cruisers. Which makes a ton of sense if the goal was something they could launch at short notice in great numbers to rain absolute hell on some Borg cubes.

The amount of firepower per ton on the Defiant is outstanding. It can solo an Excelsior. Came damned close to destroying a Jem’Hadar Dreadnought. They probably didn’t intend to deploy only one at a time!

Also consider the risk of deploying a Defiant. I say “a” Defiant because Sisko chewed through two. When a Galaxy goes down the Federation is taking a massive loss in personnel and material. When a Defiant goes down, you build a new one. Everyone probably got to the escape pods because the ship is tiny anyway, but if they didn’t, whatever, what’s one squad of mutinous cadets?

Railguns don’t work in Trek, and his other intuitions seem wrong

He makes much of the battle of Sector 001 (the opening of First Contact), but really I think that whole scene shows that the Federation was prepared for the Borg successfully. They blew heck out of that cube. He for some reason thinks that Trek shields can only stop phasers and that they should simply use regular guns on the borg because Picard tommy-gunned one drone.

Maybe it wasn’t clear enough in the movie, but that wasn’t an actual gun with actual bullets, it was a hologram. So it really shouldn’t tell you “bullets always penetrate shields”, it indicates that the Borg hadn’t expected to be shot with a hologram, but they don’t do it again because the Borg adapt to new threats. There’s no indication that a railgun would be any different. You get one railgun shot and that’s it. But it’s sillier than that.

We definitely don’t in star trek, as far as I can recall, ever see a situation where ‘oops, got hit by a solid object because our shields don’t work against those’ but we get a lot of a lot of ‘bonk’ “Shields at 50%!”If anything, shields are more effective against kinetic threats. Star Trek shields presumably already work against solid objects traveling at high speeds because they are able to travel through space without getting shredded by micrometeorites, debris from exploded enemies, and other space junk. The big deflector dish is called the “Navigational deflector” for a reason. You can see this in the opening titles of Strange New Worlds; an asteroid smashes harmlessly against the gorgeously redesigned Connie. Also, projectiles in Trek like torpedoes are already solid objects–you can’t load cadaver-Spock into an energy burst. Besides, we regularly hear of probes being launched, which presumably also can’t simply sidle up to enemy ships and detonate.

Feds don’t use railguns because a phaser is a swiss army knife that can be used (by both the characters and the writers) to deal with many different situations and if you have the right intel can bypass enemies shields. The writers can only do so much with flung metal; a scifi beam can do cool scifi things as needed, and that’s exactly the type of flexibility he himself highlighted in the beginning of his video.

But suppose your targets shields are down, one might object. In Trek, an unshielded target is already dead. A single torpedo can usually destroy an unshielded ship, or you can board it, or use your transporter to space the entire crew, or use your phasers to disable its weapons to have a nice chat. All that is to say, Trek weapons are judged mostly on their ability to strip shields. Considering how effective shields are at keeping a superluminal spaceship from splattering on interstellar dust, I think it’s safe to assume that they’re more effective against solid objects than they are against energy weapons.

But it gets worse for mass drivers. Conventional projectiles are simply too slow to be effective in an environment where targets can maneuver faster than light. You’re not going to be able to hit stuff with a railgun in Trek. The speed of light is the bare minimum and only effective at “both ships are on screen at the same time” range.

Sourcing issues

This is personal preference, but I don’t like his sourcing. He says Star Destroyers must not be do-anything ships because there are a million variants, but there are only a million variants because people writing what’s basically blessed fanfic all want to add new space ships. On screen they use one or two variants per trilogy. Similarly, his harshest criticism is centered on basically the deck plan of the ship from the technical manual that only exists to look cool and be nerdy. It’s a fictional spaceship and he barely touches on the way it works in the fiction, instead focusing squarely on ancillary minutia. Maybe this is part of his format because he usually talks about real life vehicles and the information is factual. But in a show like Trek, the only truth is the show that ends up broadcast. Treating outside information as gospel is, in my opinion, silly. A Star Trek spaceship isn’t a collection of statistics, it’s a prop used to tell stories and it’s more or less whatever the story needs it to be.

It’s just a game, who cares

I just want to add the caveat that this is a frivolous response to a frivolous piece. In defending the honor of a fictional spaceship I’m not trying to drag down your favorite YouTuber or anything. If something genuinely animates me it’s people’s attachment to learning off-screen minutia about fictional worlds. You’re investing your precious attention on something that can be invalidated at the stroke of a screenwriter’s pen!

I got the impression that Pig spent more time reading technical manuals in his research than he did watching DS9 and that’s a shame because it’s great fiction and challenges the audience a lot more than arguing about the utility of a detachable crewed missile module does.

TL; DR

Would you rather have one Galaxy or Twenty Defiants? You want the Defiants.

Fine, you got me Ars, I’ll rank the spaceships myself, properly this time

I’ll admit it: This list from Ars Technica got under my skin. Perhaps it was calculated to do so – I agree that the Enterprise C is one of the coolest Trek ship designs, but I recognize that it’s a dark horse pick. Nonetheless, a discord conversation lead me to this, ranking the Enterprises. I’m not going to include any I haven’t seen, and I’m going to include other federation starships at my discretion because ‘only classes with an enterprise’ is arbitrary.

I don’t usually blog pop culture nerd hot takes, but I do have a passion for fictional scifi starship design, so if you’d like to indulge me, read on.

13. Constitution

Black-and-white screenshot of the original Enterprise against a background of stars.

There’s no saving this misproportioned relic from the goofy raygun origins of Star Trek. It’s hopeless. It looks like it would have difficulty staying in one piece if it was a model, much less an enormous starship exceeding the speed of light. Somehow the disconnected nacelles of Discovery future ships are more credible than this toothpicky monstrosity.

Many attempts have been made to make it look good, but they have failed. At some point we need to let go of the past and stop rehashing it endlessly for nostalgia money.

Now excuse me while I write the rest of this list heavily biased by nostalgia.

12. Enterprise J

Kinda cool I guess. Or at least cool-adjacent. From that one angle. It’s a one off future that isn’t nearly as clever as the more fleshed out future in Discovery while still trying to communicate the same progression we see from Constitution (big nacelles, small saucer) to Galaxy (small nacelles, big saucer.)

When seen from other angles though, you realize it’s a silly twiggy thing that’s about as sleek as a caltrop.

11. NX-01

It’s trying to be an Akira, but also look like the Phoenix (the little rocket from First Contact) and also like the Constitution. It fails on most of those counts. Everyone inside is dressed like NASA astronauts but the ship looks like a flying saucer. Or a misshapen loaf of bread. In the opening credits we see something that looks like a Lockheed Venture Star with warp nacelles. That would have perfectly matched the vibe the show was going for, but they needed it to look like every other trek ship presumably due to branding. Product of compromise I say.

10. California

The Cali is jank, but of course it’s jank. It’s supposed to be jank. That’s the whole point. It fits the story role and theme of Lower Decks perfectly. It’s the Trek aesthetic taken to a silly extent. It’s unbalanced. It’s got a weird configuration. It looks like it’s about to tip over.

Still gets a low ranking, though, because its jank is somehow more severe than the other jank. Where is your center of mass, Cali?

9. Excelsior

Big long and stately like an ocean liner. Also good looking enough that I don’t hate that it’s the generic federation ship they always use when they need another ship to avoid confusion with the hero ship. Kinda funny that it’s introduced as an unreliable heap dismissed by Scotty and later it becomes the backbone of Starfleet!

It would probably be higher if it’s elbow pylons weren’t so out of place on the otherwise elegant flowing design.

8. Intrepid

Good design overall, but the proportions are very weird and the inline nacelles never looked right. Has some good angles, some weird angles. Don’t get me started on the articulated nacelles!

It definitely sells the premise of a small under-equipped ship far from home though, a muscular design like the Akira wouldn’t have fit the bill.

Would have been pretty sick if they’d visibly patched it with Delta Quadrant tech so that by the end it looks unrecognizable, but the budget certainly wasn’t there for that.

7. Defiant

Federation BOP. It looks and flies more like the Millennium Falcon than any Enterprise. In the grand scale of Trek ships it’s more like a fighter than anything else a Starfleet captain gets to play with. It’s a runabout with all the concentrated high tech rage the Federation can muster bolted on, and wrapped snug in a hull instead of revealing its extremities. How they got around the ‘nacelles need empty space between them’ is anyone’s guess, but this is the only ship on this list that looks like it could take a hard landing and ever fly again.

‘What if Starfleet but no more Mr Nice Guy’ is not only a perfect description of this ship, but also of it’s Captain, Benjamin “For The Uniform” Sisko. That’s right, Benjamin “In the pale Moonlight” Sisko. It has the rare distinction of being the only ship on this list (to my knowledge) employed to ruin a planet’s biosphere on purpose.

6. Sovereign

They blew up the Enterprise D because they thought they could design something that looked better in widescreen.

Let that sink in.

The Sovereign has pretty good proportions but it’s a bit long (widescreen!) and looks less impressive from below. On top and on the side, though, it looks tough. It’s got the benefit of the whole TNG era development of design language plus a special effects budget. It’s sleek and a bit mean, befitting the darker, edgier take on Piccard in it’s debut film, First Contact. After it’s one action sequence, it spends most of the movie getting taken over by aliens, which is the normal occupation for a TNG starship.

5. Crossfield

You have to admire the decision to go with something so different from other Federation ships-unique design elements like the multi ringed saucer and huge delta shaped engineering hull and (eventually) disconnecty nacelles that float around adorably during spore drive jumps. It’s a bold design that signaled that the show wasn’t going to be a rehash in the way that the movie series that preceded it was.

4. Nova

The Nova takes the aggression of the Sovereign, cranks it up, and packages it all into a cute little spaceship smaller than an Intrepid. It’s design wasted on a science vessel; it would have made a better design for the defiant if it had existed a few years earlier.

I will confess some bias here; it’s one of the ships you can fly early on in Flash Trek: Broken Mirror, and it made me feel like I’d made it as a starship captain.

They also gave Harry Kim one as a joke (it’s small and they named it the Rhode Island) which is hilarious.

3. Ambassador

Remember how this started as a response to Ars’s ranking of starships? This is the part where I pretty much agree.

The Ambassador somehow manages to nail the ideal proportions for a standard configuration starfleet vessel. The nacelles aren’t too big, the engineering section isn’t too flat, everything is just right. It’s like if you asked a kid to sketch a new starfleet vessel and didn’t nerd rage when they failed to perfectly match the jank of the Constitution and the Galaxy. It’s design fades into the background like a good soundtrack.

I will confess to bias here too, because I had the micro machines version of this (as well as others) but this is the one that no adult could recall from the show and thus impose some sort of story value on it; I was free to make up my own space adventures for this little guy.

As you can see, Galoob took liberties designing this model, it’s more detailed than the studio model in some places!

2. Akira

Another tough looking federation ship. This looks like starfleet took a nod from the Klingons. The downward angled arms give it a fierce bird-of-prey visage. It has a couple of weird angles, but overall it looks great and has solid proportions. It shows up in the beginning of First Contact to represent a starfleet ready to fight the Borg after the disaster of their last serious showdown, and has some great shots executing Piccard’s plan to blow up a Borg Cube. It looks sleek and mean but still weighty which is a rare mix for a Trek ship.

1. Galaxy

I don’t care if it looks jank or top-heavy. The biggest statement it makes is: this ain’t hard scifi. It’s carrying a whole civilization around in that giant saucer. A world that the audience will love to inhabit episode after episode. So of course it’s got a big silly saucer. It still somehow looks less likely to fall apart than the Constitution.

If the constitution says ‘this is schlocky space western stuff’ the Galaxy says ‘This is high concept science fiction that we are going to take extremely seriously, perhaps too seriously for a few seasons.’

If the Defiant is the Federation’s closed fist, this is the Federation’s welcoming wave. It says “look, we mastered physics completely, but we don’t want to fight about it, we just want to party on the holodeck while we explore the farthest reaches of the universe.” And that’s the kind of optimism that Trek can, on a good day, embody.